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    <title>STUDIO83 - News - Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? - Comments</title>
    <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448</link>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by George Gladwin Matsheke</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1492</link>
      <dc:creator>George Gladwin Matsheke</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:38:14 +0200</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;Shirley Brown - Woman to Woman #ttby&lt;br /&gt;*giggles then hides&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Shirley Brown - Woman to Woman #ttby<br />*giggles then hides</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by seilatsatsi</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1491</link>
      <dc:creator>seilatsatsi</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:30:12 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1491</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;heard this song over the weekend n i thot of this thread:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it's only fair&lt;br /&gt;That I let you know that&lt;br /&gt;The man you're in love with&lt;br /&gt;He;s mine&lt;br /&gt;From the top of his head&lt;br /&gt;To the bottom of his feet&lt;br /&gt;The bed he sleeps in and&lt;br /&gt;Every piece of food he eats&lt;br /&gt;you see I make it possible&lt;br /&gt;The clothes on his back&lt;br /&gt;Ha ha, I buy them&lt;br /&gt;The car he drives&lt;br /&gt;I pay the note every month&lt;br /&gt;So I'm telling you these things&lt;br /&gt;To let you know how much&lt;br /&gt;I love this man and woman to woman&lt;br /&gt;I think you'll understand&lt;br /&gt;How much I'll do to keep him&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>heard this song over the weekend n i thot of this thread:</p><p><br />But it's only fair<br />That I let you know that<br />The man you're in love with<br />He;s mine<br />From the top of his head<br />To the bottom of his feet<br />The bed he sleeps in and<br />Every piece of food he eats<br />you see I make it possible<br />The clothes on his back<br />Ha ha, I buy them<br />The car he drives<br />I pay the note every month<br />So I'm telling you these things<br />To let you know how much<br />I love this man and woman to woman<br />I think you'll understand<br />How much I'll do to keep him</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by George Gladwin Matsheke</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1429</link>
      <dc:creator>George Gladwin Matsheke</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:16:18 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1429</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;What NguJaz said!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by All-The- Way-To</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1428</link>
      <dc:creator>All-The- Way-To</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:49:49 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1428</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Jaz I hear you but I think we all have reached that stage of understanding. Now we are caught in an awkward position of knowing where we need to adjust and how we should adjust. We all know change has to be done, but where is that change supposed to happen and how long? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If she's subscribe to CHUBB then does that mean CHUBB is gonna be there when she wakes up from a nightmare and is shit scared? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CHUBB only protects or rather tries to defend one after the threat to their lives have occured. Bad dreams are not a threat and mere insecurity in a place they not used to doesn't qualify either.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Jaz I hear you but I think we all have reached that stage of understanding. Now we are caught in an awkward position of knowing where we need to adjust and how we should adjust. We all know change has to be done, but where is that change supposed to happen and how long? </p><p>If she's subscribe to CHUBB then does that mean CHUBB is gonna be there when she wakes up from a nightmare and is shit scared? </p><p>CHUBB only protects or rather tries to defend one after the threat to their lives have occured. Bad dreams are not a threat and mere insecurity in a place they not used to doesn't qualify either.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by khanye</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1427</link>
      <dc:creator>khanye</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:49:41 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1427</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Ya it could be true matomeb but people have done ridiculous things bcz of such, some commit suicide and some destroy each other, I'm just saying. Kabelo as a woman, I believe we do take resopsibility that comes with power or otherwise.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Ya it could be true matomeb but people have done ridiculous things bcz of such, some commit suicide and some destroy each other, I'm just saying. Kabelo as a woman, I believe we do take resopsibility that comes with power or otherwise.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by Kabelo</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1426</link>
      <dc:creator>Kabelo</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:41:34 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1426</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;hahahahaha I like the Chubb anology Jaz --- Just made me think of the insurance company 1st for women --- have you seen the people who drive them road-side assistance bemmas, they all men, women just want power without responsibility that's what I think&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>hahahahaha I like the Chubb anology Jaz --- Just made me think of the insurance company 1st for women --- have you seen the people who drive them road-side assistance bemmas, they all men, women just want power without responsibility that's what I think</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by seilatsatsi</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1425</link>
      <dc:creator>seilatsatsi</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:25:59 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1425</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Jaz broke it down perfectly for me. and as matome said, having someone that completes you dont mean u not content, true that. personally though i dont believe in my partner being my 'better half' but in him being my 'complementary half'. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;to answer Kabelo, i dont think any lady can fully break it down with regards to what the role of her man is and shud be. ideally he shud PROVIDE (but let me contrbute too), PROTECT (yes i subscribe to chubb but i love the sense of security being with u gives me), rePRODUCE (yeah in the next six yrs id love to have the 1st of my 4 kids). &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;all those roles that u shud play as a man are still there, i still NEED them but not in their entirety i guess.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Jaz broke it down perfectly for me. and as matome said, having someone that completes you dont mean u not content, true that. personally though i dont believe in my partner being my 'better half' but in him being my 'complementary half'. <br />  <br />to answer Kabelo, i dont think any lady can fully break it down with regards to what the role of her man is and shud be. ideally he shud PROVIDE (but let me contrbute too), PROTECT (yes i subscribe to chubb but i love the sense of security being with u gives me), rePRODUCE (yeah in the next six yrs id love to have the 1st of my 4 kids). </p><p>all those roles that u shud play as a man are still there, i still NEED them but not in their entirety i guess.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by NguJaz</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1424</link>
      <dc:creator>NguJaz</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:17:42 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1424</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Men's roles have changed because Women's roles have changed -- problem is, we haven't caught up and readjusted our roles.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The world we live in has afforded them Edumcashun &gt; Access to Wealth. This means they can DO for themselves. It unfortunately means that they don't NEED men to provide for them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They provide for themselves, they have Chubb to protect, they have banks to reProduce (some choose not to reProduce). Lol. So Marriage is obsolete (in the sense of &lt;strong&gt; need &lt;/strong&gt; ).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But it sure feels good to be WANTED y'all. I ain't gon' lie --&lt;br /&gt;I'd rather have a woman that wants me than needs me any day -- but I digress ...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Men just have to adjust their roles to something akin to partnering, collaboration -- togetherness [ke ntho e nice no?]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Equality is out of the question. Nature didn't make us equal. So there is a place for men . Even if they have the guy at the Chubb Control Room that they pay to "protect" them physically, it's not the same as "feeling safe". That's something that your presence, and comfort can provide for her.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for the dudes that "make" women cover their expenses -- they're not men, I do not speak of them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Men's roles have changed because Women's roles have changed -- problem is, we haven't caught up and readjusted our roles.</p><p>The world we live in has afforded them Edumcashun > Access to Wealth.  This means they can DO for themselves.  It unfortunately means that they don't NEED men to provide for them.</p><p>They provide for themselves, they have Chubb to protect, they have banks to reProduce (some choose not to reProduce).  Lol. So Marriage is obsolete (in the sense of <strong> need </strong> ).</p><p>But it sure feels good to be WANTED y'all. I ain't gon' lie --<br />I'd rather have a woman that wants me than needs me any day -- but I digress ...</p><p><br />Men just have to adjust their roles to something akin to partnering, collaboration -- togetherness [ke ntho e nice no?]</p><p><br />Equality is out of the question.  Nature didn't make us equal.  So there is a place for men .  Even if they have the guy at the Chubb Control Room that they pay to "protect" them physically, it's not the same as "feeling safe".  That's something that your presence, and comfort can provide for her.</p><p>As for the dudes that "make" women cover their expenses -- they're not men, I do not speak of them.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by matomeb</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1423</link>
      <dc:creator>matomeb</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:53:15 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1423</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I have a problem with that line of argument. When a person says "you complete me", I don't think there is any reference to them not being content with themselves nor replacing God with men/women. I think people's statements are taken out of context for our own arguments when that is not what they intended to say in the first place. Its like saying someone is my beter half; literally we know its impossible but its a figure of speech for goodness sake.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I have a problem with that line of argument. When a person says "you complete me", I don't think there is any reference to them not being content with themselves nor replacing God with men/women. I think people's statements are taken out of context for our own arguments when that is not what they intended to say in the first place. Its like saying someone is my beter half; literally we know its impossible but its a figure of speech for goodness sake.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by George Gladwin Matsheke</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1422</link>
      <dc:creator>George Gladwin Matsheke</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:36:30 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1422</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;true though! you have to be complete with yourself first before - you can unite with someone else.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>true though! you have to be complete with yourself first before - you can unite with someone else.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by khanye</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1421</link>
      <dc:creator>khanye</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:31:04 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1421</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Exactly and women tend to substitute God and replace them with their men. And make demands on their men and men can't give them that. Ppl use words like he completes me; how can a man complete u.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Exactly and women tend to substitute God and replace them with their men. And make demands on their men and men can't give them that. Ppl use words like he completes me; how can a man complete u.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by George Gladwin Matsheke</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1420</link>
      <dc:creator>George Gladwin Matsheke</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:10:28 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1420</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Cant do anything without God.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by khanye</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1419</link>
      <dc:creator>khanye</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:06:07 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1419</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;You know how guys are, they lie to them but don't want toi leave. With others its about power and status if they church members and doctors for example. Environment plays a role&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>You know how guys are, they lie to them but don't want toi leave. With others its about power and status if they church members and doctors for example. Environment plays a role</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by khanye</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1418</link>
      <dc:creator>khanye</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:02:06 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1418</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;my view: role of a man is to lead, provide, protect and basically be in the moment as in be present and not forgetin that he had to follow God.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>my view: role of a man is to lead, provide, protect and basically be in the moment as in be present and not forgetin that he had to follow God.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by George Gladwin Matsheke</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1417</link>
      <dc:creator>George Gladwin Matsheke</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:59:27 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1417</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;WOW! sooooooo all of this boils down to tolarance? hmm and marriage ofcourse, now i kinda makes sense. i know that alot are desperate to get married and stuff. hmmmm --- but now, do the guys eventually marry those girls?&lt;br /&gt;*we ponder on this&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>WOW! sooooooo all of this boils down to tolarance? hmm  and marriage ofcourse, now i kinda makes sense. i know that alot are desperate to get married and stuff. hmmmm --- but now, do the guys eventually marry those girls?<br />*we ponder on this</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by khanye</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1416</link>
      <dc:creator>khanye</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:55:32 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1416</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Motives well most, the black women I know want to get married they desperate no matter what and when she does that, she believes no chick would tolerate the ish she does so the dude is bound to stay with her. Cos he can't do stuff without her, its as if his dependent on her&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Motives well most, the black women I know want to get married they desperate no matter what and when she does that, she believes no chick would tolerate the ish she does so the dude is bound to stay with her. Cos he can't do stuff without her, its as if his dependent on her</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by Kabelo</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1413</link>
      <dc:creator>Kabelo</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:46:56 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1413</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;@All-The- Way-To , I think the old-school way is the best way to go, but society keeps changing and so do the rules of engagement, maybe 1 of the ladies should tell us what in her view the role of a man is in a relationship.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@All-The- Way-To , I think the old-school way is the best way to go, but society keeps changing and so do the rules of engagement, maybe 1 of the ladies should tell us what in her view the role of a man is in a relationship.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by All-The- Way-To</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1410</link>
      <dc:creator>All-The- Way-To</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:30:10 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1410</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;ow yeah this is quite enticing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;@Kabelo. I am glad you pointed the most crucial part about the whole conversation. &lt;br /&gt;We were lucky cause our pos or at the very least our grand dads are old school niggas and we got a chance to watch them do their thing. This is mostly the reason why the male role has change because even us dudes didnt entirely agree with some of the stuff they did. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But now the generation we are giving birth to will not get the chance to view we saw and hence confusion will occur and with confusion comes panick which ultimately gives birth to war.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So going forward from the mistakes the old tymas made how have we structured ourselves as a male figure?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What I have learnt with the obsession of refering to the past is that elders made a decidion according to the circumstances and stuck to it, should your situation not be able to accomodate it you as an elder and most importantly one responsible for your life you changed it. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So its a case of make do with what you got.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>ow yeah this is quite enticing.</p><p>@Kabelo. I am glad you pointed the most crucial part about the whole conversation. <br />We were lucky cause our pos or at the very least our grand dads are old school niggas and we got a chance to watch them do their thing. This is mostly the reason why the male role has change because even us dudes didnt entirely agree with some of the stuff they did. </p><p>But now the generation we are giving birth to will not get the chance to view  we saw and hence confusion will occur and with confusion comes panick which ultimately gives birth to war.</p><p>So going forward from the mistakes the old tymas made how have we structured ourselves as a male figure?</p><p>What I have learnt with the obsession of refering to the past is that elders made a decidion according to the circumstances and stuck to it, should your situation not be able to accomodate it you as an elder and most importantly one responsible for your life you changed it. </p><p>So its a case of make do with what you got.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by Kabelo</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1409</link>
      <dc:creator>Kabelo</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:15:49 +0200</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;@Kanye --- school us please, what motives are you refering to&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@Kanye --- school us please, what motives are you refering to</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by khanye</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1408</link>
      <dc:creator>khanye</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:13:05 +0200</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;It depends I know women who pay rent, cook, clean do everything for their men and what they get in return is a man who comes home drunk or goes out with friends. Once a woman starts paying for rent, installments ect you should know there is a motive behind and mostly it has nothing to do with her really being inlove.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It depends I know women who pay rent, cook, clean do everything for their men and what they get in return is a man who comes home drunk or goes out with friends. Once a woman starts paying for rent, installments ect you should know there is a motive behind and mostly it has nothing to do with her really being inlove.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by Kabelo</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1407</link>
      <dc:creator>Kabelo</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:10:16 +0200</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;@The-Duke-Of-PLK --- I feel you hombre, on point --- My question is what exactly is the role of man in a relationship, its funny how it always back to loot, and people say money can't buy you love&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by matomeb</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1405</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:56:54 +0200</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;ooh, one other thing, just because she can pay for stuff (and she actually does) because she's more monied does not exempt the dude from doing what he can for her with what he's got. Its not all about money, its about the effort, at least I think.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If she can afford to take you to Pigale, prepare a home cooked meal for her.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>ooh, one other thing, just because she can pay for stuff (and she actually does) because she's more monied does not exempt the dude from doing what he can for her with what he's got. Its not all about money, its about the effort, at least I think.</p><p>If she can afford to take you to Pigale, prepare a home cooked meal for her.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by matomeb</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1404</link>
      <dc:creator>matomeb</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:50:05 +0200</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;My 2c: &lt;br /&gt;I think this whole topic has been way skewed. Some women tend to use the whole "man's role" when it suits them and then shift the goal posts to "I got my own back" when its suitable to do so. On the other hand men that find it difficult to accept a woman paying for anything tend to get intimidated by women that are more paid. I'm just saying tho, :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On a serious note, different relations have their nuances and I don't think the one set of rules apply for all scenarios. Couples should decide what works for them: communication.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My 2c:  <br />I think this whole topic has been way skewed. Some women tend to use the whole "man's role" when it suits them and then shift the goal posts to "I got my own back" when its suitable to do so. On the other hand men that find it difficult to accept a woman paying for anything tend to get intimidated by women that are more paid. I'm just saying tho, :)</p><p>On a serious note, different relations have their nuances and I don't think the one set of rules apply for all scenarios. Couples should decide what works for them: communication.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by seilatsatsi</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1403</link>
      <dc:creator>seilatsatsi</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:47:11 +0200</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;we will never be equal, but what u saying is true, we want equality when it suits us. personally i want him to still pull my chair, open doors for me etc but i also wanna pay for the bill every now n den. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;mhh, its complex this thing i guess&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>we will never be equal, but what u saying is true, we want equality when it suits us. personally i want him to still pull my chair, open doors for me etc but i also wanna pay for the bill every now n den. </p><p>mhh, its complex this thing i guess</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by Kabelo</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1401</link>
      <dc:creator>Kabelo</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:20:18 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1401</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;@All-The- Way-To --- we once had a debate about that, now to make it more interesting, how far does this gender equality stretch? do we still say ladies 1st, open doors, pull chairs? If we are equal, what's the use, maybe women should start pulling chairs for us ---&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And to send it into a spiral, we wont be stepping down from our roles if we are indeed equal --- &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My point is, women general go with what suites their situation ---&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I dont know if y'all get me&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@All-The- Way-To --- we once had a debate about that, now to make it more interesting, how far does this gender equality stretch? do we still say ladies 1st, open doors, pull chairs? If we are equal, what's the use, maybe women should start pulling chairs for us ---</p><p>And to send it into a spiral, we wont be stepping down from our roles if we are indeed equal --- </p><p>My point is, women general go with what suites their situation ---</p><p>I dont know if y'all get me</p>]]>
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      <dc:creator>seilatsatsi</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:12:44 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1400</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;i agree le kabelo, love is not deaf nor blind, we just choose to be ignorant.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>i agree le kabelo, love is not deaf nor blind, we just choose to be ignorant.</p>]]>
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      <title>Comment on: Round Table: Are Men Stepping Down their Roles? by George Gladwin Matsheke</title>
      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1399</link>
      <dc:creator>George Gladwin Matsheke</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:03:11 +0200</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;that should make an interesting topic for us to tackle one day, this is a platform for those kind of topics to be addressed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>that should make an interesting topic for us to tackle one day, this is a platform for those kind of topics to be addressed.</p>]]>
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      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1398</link>
      <dc:creator>All-The- Way-To</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:56:53 +0200</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;we have attacked them by our statements so they would either insult us by calling us insecure or cry out prejudice to defend themselves.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ow just off the topic. someone pposed this topic today he had a fall out with his girl. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"If a woman when angry expresses her right by slapping punching and screaming at me. Why is it wrong for me as a man to display my anger back the best way I know how to."&lt;br /&gt;(his best way was him beating the living light bulbs out of her, luckily only a fractured rib and an assault charge, could have been worse)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>we have attacked them by our statements so they would either insult us by calling us insecure or cry out prejudice to defend themselves.</p><p>Ow just off the topic. someone pposed this topic today he had a fall out with his girl. </p><p>"If a woman when angry expresses her right by slapping punching and screaming at me. Why is it wrong for me as a man to display my anger back the best way I know how to."<br />(his best way was him beating the living light bulbs out of her, luckily only a fractured rib and an assault charge, could have been worse)</p>]]>
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      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1396</link>
      <dc:creator>Kabelo</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:47:36 +0200</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;so they say... personally I say love is not blind nor deaf&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <link>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1394</link>
      <dc:creator>George Gladwin Matsheke</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:32:21 +0200</pubDate>
      <guid>http://studio83.co.za/news/2009/11/24/1448#response-1394</guid>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;hmmm, you could be right - phela love is blind. right?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>hmmm, you could be right - phela love is blind. right?</p>]]>
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